It was what I'd believed was success. i fell proud my diamond upline is anurag and nidhi agarwal. I've even heard IBOs discuss BILLIONAIREs they've met. Yup the garage makes me suspicious he lives with mommy and daddy and they don't want his Amway shit in their house. And because you're a dumb fuck Amway Ambot I have to spell it out for you. Anonymous - Yes! Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. Omg anna you foreal need to get a life. Amway is constantly associated with being a pyramid scheme, a cult, and selling overpriced shitty products. It is my fault for being too curious, I should have known that this "get rich " in a few years is too good to be true. That's one of the requirements to being in the Amway cult, becoming a prude. After the meeting, they asked me what I thought and I politely told them that I was not interested in Amway. They talk about their opulent lifestyles now, and tell those still struggling to build their Amway businesses that they can have the same thing, too, if they just work hard enough. People in Amway are prudes The correct answer when asked about your dream is to say its to produce gay porno movies. Add to that the demand that IBOs buy all the damn "tools," and those bigshots made a fortune.They told De Vos and Van Andel to go to hell. Ive now added an extension to the Wiki which allows us to easily list these pages and so far we have information (at least the names!) I don't want him to get suckered into this, he sounds so passionate about it too.PS. Hi Anonymous.Guess they couldn't afford a coffee at McDonalds! It's funny how people will always look at a finished product and say that was easy our he's lucky. I even recall when diamond bitch brought her closet full of fur coats so we lowly people could try them on. They're in the past. The amount of people each Ambot would have to have under them is prohibitively large to make any profit at all. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!! Their income as declared by Amway is Rs 82.41 Lacs/an. But yeah its a nice mark up if you can brainwash Ambots to buy it ! In fact, 99% of Amway . If he listens to the Amway cult leaders at every meeting the Diamond makes bazillions of dollars in residual income every month or if he reads the small print in the Amway literature they say Diamond makes about 150k. Anonymous - I think you've figured it out. World Wide Dream Builders (WWDB) is the largest and most successful Amway Motivational Organization. Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. but the moral of the post is that if I help you make $4000/month The Amway corporation will pay me $850/month, now what is bad about that? URA?Or are you going to run and hide, realizing you have made a dangerously invalid remark, with a face attached?-Jerry, You guys shut the hell up you all are broke and if you check the stats Amway is rated much higher than your jobs and it had help more people become financially free. In the late 1980s I frequently attended Amway rallies to help out a friend (bringing potential recruits to these rallies made my friend look good to his upstream). We have been "in the business" now for some 18 yrs, and have been @ the Direct/Platinum or above level for 17 of those yrs. However, if he were to claim that he owned the Apple stock for more that one month, he's saying that he purchased 1,000 shares of a stock whose value ranged between $300 and $600 per share over the three years that he's been in business. This doesn't leave a funny taste in your mouth?-Jerry. No one every enforced the 10 customer rule in order to get a commission from Amway. Wilson, Don & Nancy, Double Diamond, United States, Legacy Business Group/TEAM, Terminated. But the people like you Anna are just the type of people who are negative for your own reasons. They teach you to keep positive, keep pushing to achieve your dreams, and to never quit. Where can you do that with a conventional job?? But on this note, why don't you get a look at this website, it breaks up a diamond's revenue better than I ever could:http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/tools.html. Is it the weekend? you haven't lost hope. Amway is vastly different.. Its called facts and people who ignore them are called ignorant. I just started with a new MLM, I've been skeptical of MLMs for years after this. Who is now amway diamon and who is babesor. 2 / Brandon Odom pt. The Top 27 Amway Diamonds of All Time: Best Amway Success Stories. Then they get punished and told never question upline. I'd like to hear what the Diamonds have to say about that at one of those stupid, greed-driven WWDB functions. As long as they have a steady stream of suckers paying too much money for generic and substandard Amway products they've got no reason to make changes. Considering benefits like healthcare and retirement, the total compensation package likely approaches $200k. I can say that I sell pencils on the corner and made 12 million doing it last year. We actually see progress. Absolutely correct! Also buy monthly for your "personal assistant" LOL Communikate, around $35 or $40. Now the Internet has made it a more transparent society. Read that and it'll answer all your questions. Me again. This blog mainly exists to curse out my former upline, aka the cult leaders, and to let everyone know what kind of idiots I had to put up with. This article is insanely biased. Amway is a very expensive social club! A few years ago I saw an Amway fact sheet that said more than 4000 business had qualifed at Diamond and above. No. How Does A Ponzi Scheme Lure So Many Victims? Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. Not filling the garage with soap they'll be using for the next 20 years because they can't find any suckers to sell it to. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. I once heard a completely brainwashed over the top Ambot claim "If Jesus were here today, he'd be selling Amway!" Well FUCK YOU asshole! Even if she only makes one sale a month she'd still be making more money than she would in Amway. How much does a diamond make in Amway? Yes I'm a failure at lying, cheating, scamming people out of their money, brainwashing them, bitching at them to come to cult meetings and to buy overpriced shitty products. CRAZY!! I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. He goes to a lot of the conferences and weekly meetings and is actually doing pretty well which he thinks is just luck. !if u have not done anything in your life then dont be frusteted because Amway is the only way to get every thing in your life which you deserves. Facts are not "assumptions". Doesn't speak volumes that the cult would as you to forsake someone you love to remain in the cult? The beachfront island resort offers vast ocean views and lively pools and lagoons in a setting for unforgettable adventure. "if i don't get him/her back i will end my life.."What, so you can't even tell if your ex lover is a man or a woman? Anonymous - good on you for saying NO to Amway. And yes when you're in Amway you are only supposed to socialize with other people in Amway because the rest of the world who aren't in Amway are losers and dream stealers and must be avoided according to the assholes in your Amway upline that is. But we also know that diamonds earn income from the sale of tools. Let's just assume he purchased it over time at an average of $450 per share - so $450k out of his claim of making $1.22 million. So net its a small income. While many people have come to know jesus Christ through their association with Amway, the elites are another kettle of fish. Many of them have died and their businesses are now run by others. LOLstop seeing amway as this bullshit scam promising to make you rich. Depending on the result the person would be a "hit" if they agreed to see the plan, a "miss" if there was no answer and a "flush" if they had the temerity to refuse the opportunity of a lifetime. haha! Your a little hater and your heart is pure evil. Amway's head office or an Ambot? Someone is yanking your chain. Its a life changing opportunity. Like you said big red flags.Look further up on the right side of this page under Amway related links. I almost busted a gut laughing. We dont moderate comments on weekends. My wife is with Amway too. Gross or net and with or without a few cash events Diamonds can't afford to live millionaire lifestyles on that income. I think in Merchants of Deception, or maybe just by general knowledge, those tapes cost 50 cents to produce so there's lot of money to be made by selling them for $5+ to ambots. Where to start? Greed rules! There are over 10,000 comments left on this blog over the years. Did you get married? Its not about money Anna, its about having the freedom to choose your own hours and not answering to anyone. Anonymous - I'm with you. I'm with you. The living room would have been more likely a choice to show someone a business plan not a garage. Success is NOT just around the corner if there are no outside buyers for the products. Flexible Payment Options. The new IBO will receive an email with a link to complete the process, Share referral links to your favorite products and receive credit for all of your customer sales. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. The idea was to reach a level where the scam would provide such a high salary that you don't need anything else and can have all the time in the world with massive money pouring in. We just want to help people not go through the hell we went through. And why must they only do amway and sit at home on their asses?American sport stars have the same lifestyle as diamonds.. earn a fortune for a few years and then they get too old at 35. She is great and of course you and I both no Amway is not. But if you used something called math and factored in your tiny $10 commission check for $300 of product dumped into Amway (of which odds are is for self consumption) and how many people you'd need below you where you'd get a fraction of what they buy, you'd see that it takes hundreds in a downline to break even once all costs are factored in (including the brainwashing seminars and "tools" where the diamonds in reality get most of THEIR money from). Ignorance a mouth? Not hard to figure out at all why Amway diamonds are broke. I look back and think my mom was a genius for resisting Amway the way she didshe never gave in!! Don't forget the tool scam money. No praying required just think about it no one knows anyone here but we all know people who enjoy they're journey and we all know people that hate they're journey 95% percent of people are seeking solutions 5 percent are excited to join a ranting bunch. Their solution? It's stupid to work a job and make your boss rich. Your right, diamond don't requalify, but their bonus checks still come in ever month and year and their income actually grows because the real money in made in the depth of your business, not by how many legs you have. I can feel it!". You can be like the majority of prospects and say you'll be there and just be a no show. And Diamonds ain't forever. I am enjoying the path of this business because I do not believe that another person can dictate what I am worth, I know it's a investment and if your passion and work ethic is strong you can succeed in the business! Live from an Amway meeting! It's a common theme across many Amway Motivational Organizations (AMO). If it crumbles after 10 years fineshit happens, you would still have many properties providing you with rental income. 1966 A New Name: The ADA I think the 150 k is a gross figure. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. He defected to Monavie and took a lot of his downline with him. The enthusiasm is still there. They attend the first Bahama Rama with 13 Distributorships in celebration. Youre the liar you broke loser. It's impossible to know the exact "success" rate for Amway independent business owners (IBOs), but one case from 2008 showed that out of 33,000 IBOs, only 90 made enough money to cover the costs of their business. First, Diamonds make more than 150k. As a 12 year old witnessing the early years even I had the common sense to look at this yahoos and think, "This is the biggest scam ever"! Sounds like all you need to do is keep doing what youre doing and help others to do the same! Anyone can say "..it had help more people become financially free" without any actual proof or statistics other than that's what your upline told you. But eventually when the ambot only sees $10 coming in from his commissioned sales from Amway every month after spending hundreds of dollars then they ask the assholes in the Amway upline because the numbers don't add up. Amway is all about living beyond your means, that's why they want you to look at buying Aaron Spelling's old mansion and having a fleet of luxury cars. If hate bothers you that much then stay away from Amway the biggest hate mongers out there. Kyritsis got off easy. Diamonds with CDs or who speak at functions, people in Amway's publicity department who write press releases and blogs. God helped me to take decision to start AMWAY. Osuwariboy - he's being a bad little Ambot isn't he. That's why most people don't want anything to do with Amway. We don't just ride on hope. Amway is all about selling the hope. Lets see if you paid cash for the house then there wouldnt be a mortgage and impossible for a bank to foreclose. Over 200,000 GIA-Graded. 68 cents on every dollar is paid back to distributors. Certainly everyone who visits this site needs to read Merchants of Deception. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Unless they're really fucked in the head. Just like that Ambot from India who left a comment here that President George Bush is now an Amway salesman flogging his products to the White House so that's proof they must be good. No? Amway is very different. Amway Scamway and their scammer army of Ambots. Just cause your husband didnt do so good on amway doesnt mean that other people well do the same thing. How can you say 150 k is a nice income. I was in Amway back in 96 to 99. Amway is not a scam - but you can still be scammed. While technically it is possible Id say in reality it is not possible from a standing start. Realists always face reality. My parents were Amway folks back in the late 80s and throughout the 90s, even into the early 2000s. I thought they were earning so much from this scam that they wouldn't need it. Anna. But like any pyramid based upon recruitment and not selling products to an outside customer base, the only folks who have any hope of making above breaking even are a very small percentage (less than 1% by Amway's own literature) and they do that on the backs of people are recruited in and lose money hand over fist while being bullshitted with "you gotta hang in there, success is just around the corner" and "you just aren't working hard enough", neither which is usually true. I can conclude that you either are lying, or you simply built a poor organization. I remember qualifying on an incentive to visit Diamond Clark and Diana Broome's house in Loomis, California. So maybe that accounts for a lot of Ambots who sign up with Amway the Cult of Greed. my opinion is that they had a goal and despite sooooooo many people telling them they can't do it, you're crazy, just quit. I asked him a few questions about his new gig but he wouldn't tell me the entire picture. A diamond pin is finally available. I ran across your amazing blog. You might love the fucking assholes in your Amway upline so much that you'd be happy to suck dick and kiss ass. Thats something i'll never be able to say. But, perhaps Theo is still around to clarify his math. But when the diamond falls out of qualification fees dry up. It's their way or nothing at all. I know these are true, because they show us their checks. There is a word for what they do in the outside world. That's interesting why Amway's owners jacked up their prices. Can you give me some info about the way you work your business ? If you, dear reader, know of a son or daughter who is now running their parents business, please let us know. They are greedy, wealth-based and sneer at the poor instead of helping them (though ironically Ambots tend to be poor themselves unless they have a great real J.O.B. Hope you're into horror tales!Run, don't walk, as far away as you can from anyone in Amway. No skin off my ass if you choose to believe a bunch of scamming lying Amway assholes or believe those who've lost money thanks to this scam. Lastly, everyone just needs to settle down. And absolutely those evil bastards who bring so much misery to other people's lives belong in hell. I don't understand why getting new people to join is so much more important than just selling products. And thus their "job" becomes trying to keep those below them inside the pyramid motivated to be "fired up" and keep on losing money month after month with promises of "success just around the corner". Amway Diamonds- How To Hit The Rank. Looks good on paper but putting the Amway bored plan into action is another story because its real hard to find one person to sign up for Scamway let alone 2 or 6 or 100. After leaving 2 short insulting comments full of typos the 3rd comment was he's a triple executive diamond.The numbers any ambot throws out at you will never add up. I've had many children of Amway Ambots leave comments here about how Amway destroyed their family. Best of luck in tying the record, though!! These guys are telling you to sign up for MLMs while they own them. There seems to be a lot of this going around lately. Joe's commentary. Glad you're enjoying the blog. If you are teamed up with the wrong people then you of course there is the chance of failure- say what you want. Diamond are able to requalify. In other words they accuse someone in the same income bracket as a Diamond of being broke so that shows their low opinion of broke Amway diamonds! I'm going to bring your comments up in a future post because this is kind of old and readers might miss it. 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