Anyways, yes, if *I* could smell a difference, I think your dog would too. --- I feel SO stupid even typing this!! My OB says she thinks animals can definitely sense the change in hormones. I don't know, but my 22 month old son has been super clingy lately lol. Despite many people sharing their own stories online, there doesnt appear to be a scientific basis that toddlers can sense pregnancy as such. ?When I found out I was pregnant, and about 7-8 weeks along - I noticed the same behavior! But when I was pregnant with DD I couldn't go anywhere near poo (I worked in daycare)! We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. I still havent told her the news but she talks about the baby in my belly every day and how she cant wait to become a big sister. Which he has never done before. Bloated. Or maybe you are already actively trying to conceive. He stayed by side and kept licking my hand. If your toddler hasnt figured out youre pregnant yet, you might be wondering when it is best to tell them. That did end up being a chemical .. You hate loud noises The little clues that suggest you might be pregnant often come in the form of things that don't usually bother us suddenly now getting to us BIG time. June 2012. That's so weird that she's acting that way. I think she knows. Start by selecting which of these best describes you! Tightenings in uterus, I can only describe them like Braxton Hicks! A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. My then 9 month old started rubbing my tummy all of a sudden. He would just walk up to the expectant mum and tell them what she was having, very bizarre! I had implantation bleeding with baby #1. It's possible. But not every mum had such a sweet moment with their child and pregnancy, as one woman pointed out. I have noticed at night she has to curl up right by my belly (yes, she sleeps with me). What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. The last couple days she has been much more clingy and always has to have her arms wrapped around me. Already back at work 3.5wks pp long rant about SO. I think they sense it, they have to. I also know whether it's sticking or not. I guess on a positive note, I have another tally on my list of pre BFP symtoms:-). All rights reserved. My dog has been following me around the house for the last 2 weeks constantly! We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. Breastfeeding: the trick to a comfy latch. ? s. Spammi. This discussion is archived and locked for posting. Yes! All rights reserved. We love her and treat her like our child. I know it isn't the best symptom if you aren't checking this monthly. and that is causing him to be more concerned and not that he actuallyknows there is a little one on the way! then i had 2 smokes, and a shower felt extremely faint in the shower and i love my hot showers, so i decided to test afterwards, who knew BFP (clearblue) then i tested 2 hours after to make sure (first response) BFP, then i was like okay, i'll do another test in the morning first pee just to 100% confirm, (clearblue digital) 2 - 3 weeks pregnant. I lost the baby in April and almost over night she went back to loving me unconditionally. She has gotten better, but at first, she was having accidents in the house and . So sweet! According to the Humane Society of the United States, a cat's sense of smell is 14 times as strong as ours. gas, on edge with no patience, mild cramps, peeing a lot, boobs slightly tender 10 dpo- emotional, gas, hot and sweaty, tired, diarrhea, insomnia, boobs tender And if a heightened sense of smell is on your list of symptoms, you've still got nothing on your cat. I get a bit lost with it all. He was like "Omg you're pregnant right now! Breast tenderness 6. A toddler who feels secure is going to behave better, but this will also inform how their self-confidence builds throughout their life. In fact, I tested because it was unusual to get them dpo. This is our 5th and I've always tested early on months that we mess up our bc . What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. Bleeding / spotting 5. My daughter is 3 this month and she has started wanting to lay on my stomach to go to sleep. Tested myself today, and it's positive. That's very interesting. This is my second month TTC #2 and this month a couple of crazy things have happened and made my symptom spotting brain go crazy! A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. So I think animals definitely know, sometimes before we do. One has been a mother, and she "knew" I was pregnant before I did. You've made the decision and you are actively trying to conceive. i just laugh at least let me get my BFP first ! Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. Worr, Get the days best CHAT sent straight to your inbox, I have read and understood Netmums' Privacy Notice and Terms & Conditions, CM before period VS CM in early pregnancy. another chemical pregnancy? My first I was in Jamaica and I was all of a sudden nausea just walking on the beach and had major aversion to coffee which was odd, This pregnancy no nausea or aversions yet but I had major mood swings and I had insomnia. My DH thinks its hilarious. That being said though, our dog (a GSP) had no idealol. Even if toddlers are excited about the possibility of a new brother or sister to play with, they might start to behave differently, display anger, or even seem as though they have regressed. so hard to tell with me- but i have noticed that instead of sleeping in her bed, she will sometimes come lay by me next to the couch- which is not her typical self (she loves her bed) and when she hears something outside, she has been coming over to lay with me and stands alert but doesn't overly freak out and run to the door like she does normally- its funny to watch- sweet dog, while on the topic of dogs- everyone must go see Marley and Me- what a great movie!! The short answer is yes. About a week and a half before my BFP my cat wouldn't come near me, and she is usually very cuddly. Listen to the full episode of This Glorious Mess here: You can buy any book mentioned on our podcasts from iBooks at apple.co/mamamia, where you can also subscribe to all our other shows in one place. 1. Over the past several weeks, he has been even closer and always resting his huge head on my abdominal area. I feel like I have a guard dog. Chances of pregnancy? CD 3= bleeding stopped, heartburn, BFN, cramps. ?He kept staring at me - and sitting by me - then he started sleeping on my side of the bed, when he usually never leaves my dh's side. my neice has been avoiding me lately and very sassy towards me, but my nephew who is usually the rude one has not let me out of his sight and just sits on my lap all day. I was wondering this recently too so I started reading a lot about it on line. During friends pregnancy the dog did not want to have anything to do with her. Was she clingy? He won't let me out of his sight and sleepson my side of the bedevery night. After all, there might also be many occasions when toddlers think someone is pregnant, but they arent. I think my daughter knows (we haven't told her yet). What to Expect has thousands of open discussions happening each day. After all, they do like to mimic what we say, so they will likely be saying baby quite a bit once youre talking to them about your pregnancy. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I'm glad i'm not the only one noticing this. They don't want to leave my side, meow and whine constantly to me, not DH. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. I've read that if you're having a boy, little girls become 'clingy'or hang around you more and if you're having a girl, little boys become 'clingy' or hang around you more. Every time we DTD when Dd was younger, I swear she had a radar and would cry to stop us :P lol. All in all its cute, but something to keep an eye on. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I dont' know for sure; but I really hope so!!! Today our 5 yr old looked at me and said she'd rather be with her mom because she was going to be the only kid there. Very annoying but very curious. Your furball can detect pregnancy-related shifts. LOL. Fatigue. I have a puggle-baby who will be 1 year in February who has been acting the same as PP's - following me around, sleeping on my side of the bed, having accidents in the house. I tested 9 dpo and bfp. The puppy just follows me everywhere too, we got her before I knew I was pregnant, but I wasso I am not sure about her. And would you believe him? Most recently, he has been growling at neighbors or people he sees through the window (which he's always done ina way, but now he sounds lessplayful). Its presumed that a mothers anxiety can be induced in her toddler, who may display behavioral changes like sleep disturbances and increased tantruming. We haven't discussed a baby with him yet. All sorts of other odd things I normally wouldn't notice smelled so fragrant. I think a woman's true intuition is never wrong. It was very strange. My dog even had 2 accidents inside and she NEVER does that. Vivid dreams, nausea when eating, and tender nipples all within a few days, My husband and I are TTC our first baby. I have a lot of shame around this and I'm not able to see my doctor until the 21st and this has been eating me up so I was wondering if anyone here has any experiences they can share. Advertisement. Most mainstream pregnancy tests are held under a stream of urine. Aw, that's adorable! 1 week later I tested positive! Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. Share. Studies have shown that spending time with a domesticated animal can improve mood, reduce depression, lower blood pressure, and even help you live longer. Little things like uploading a profile picture make the community a better place. Didn't want to read and run but hope you get your bfp. I was shockeshocked and thought she was kidding. 24/04/2009 13:47. Af arrived 2 days late. So I would say yes they definitely know! wrote Tiamumin on a parenting forum. I have also had the worst itching/tingling boobs today too. I'm also wondering what others had. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). Literally the day I got my BFP she became waaaaayyyy more clingy & has stayed that way for the last three weeks (currently 7 weeks pregnant)! I am due with #2 in less than 2 months and it feels like MIL is gearing up to adopt my firstborn. i remember cramping for about 5 days straight, and had slight spotting (the cramping for days never happens to me, EVER) when i get my period i literally cramp a couple of hours before hand or the night before and bang there she is! Toddlers detect our stress Toddlers may not sense pregnancy, so much as they can detect any stress you're feeling. My dog totally knows. same! I've also heard that dogs have such amazing hearing that they can hear the hearbeat from the womb!?? I've been wondering the same thing. I think i might had O'd really early like 8 days ago. Sounds like your little pooch may be very intuitive! Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Was this article helpful? Instead, try to explain it in terms of positive development for your toddler. Toddlers are perceptive. If you say that the baby needs these things, your toddler might think you are taking things away from them as though the baby is more important. -- Hoping she's not just noticing the weight I've gained recently!! The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. We keep them up because there are a ton of great conversations here and we believe you deserve to see them all. Can older children sense you're pregnant before BFP? ?But you brought it up! Help them see its not all about the new baby, that they are still important too. Bloating 4. IUIBaby. She also randomly started saying baby, a new word from her and one that we don't really. He HAS to be by me. With baby #4 I had terrible period cramps, but no period. Hiya, One of my first PG symptoms is a really heightened sense of smell. My sense of smell shot through the roof at about 7dpo! Funny thing is I haven't even mentioned to dbf that I might be pregnant again! Ha ha. It's strange for sure. I did an HPT this morning with FMU at got a BFN. Just curious to how everyone knew they were pregnant before their BFP. I have two pug dogs named Ava and Bela! Which, for him, already being VERY protective, is kinda insane. Theres a lot of anecdotal evidence that toddlers can sense your pregnancy. Here we are trying for #5 and I still find myself googling like crazy and reading these forums. And I was! Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. She hasn't been barking just has been very alert and protectiveof me. Is this another earliy symtom of pregnancy? It is such a great feeling, I love that kid like she is my own daughter. Foolproof evidence may not exist, but claims from animal experts and fur parents are enough at the moment. When youre pregnant, things change. 2 days later tested positive they are so clever xxx. But, can that really be true? Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Not exactly the same but my daughter SWORE black & blue she was getting a baby brother (we never found out what we were having) & lo & behold she got her baby brother! When you fall pregnant, your hormones start to do their thing before even a home pregnancy test could detect the baby. This is an attempt to regain the normalcy of life , where they perhaps had a higher level of attention. Its certainly endearing to think that our toddlers can tell when were expecting, but, as one forum commenter put it - it might be self-selective to focus in on this one thing that they said - and were right about. She has since come around, probably because I spoiled her on Christmas, but I think she knew. Share the highs and lows of this time, and meet other women going through the same as you. I knew by 5-6 dpo that I was pregnant. It was really strange, and he had never done it before. ? Not sure when I dry up but I know I usually do before af. My son 3 told me I have a baby in my tummy I said really but we have Kenzie (my 4 month old at the time). It doesnt take a genius to realise you might be pregnant. If so, how long does it last? You know how I know you're pregnant? **I completely apologize that I wrote a mini novel here. Hey ladies! I posted about this when I got my BFP. Fatigue 3. I hold her like a baby and scratch her tummy. Weird tho. TLDR is I drank a lot over Christmas before knowing I was My MC Story and AftermathSo Many Unanswered Questions (Very long and a little graphic). I looked down to see if I had a fat role and my stomach was flat. Because of these 2 things, I have been symptom spotting like a crazy woman and convinced myself I'm pregnant this cycle and AF isn't due until the 19th Feb! My dog too, a lot more clingy than normal. He said that the way I smelt had changed . She doesn't sleep in bed with us that often, since she has her own room with a bed. All rights reserved. I was just talking to DH about this the other day and it does seem like he "knows" something is going onthen I wonder, it could be that I'm acting different (mood swings, crying, etc.) hahaha oh wow thats scary! I too, think she knows. The week before I found out I was pregnant, I was in the grocery store with my almost 2 year old. I read this while AF was still here (I'm currently 6dpo) and my horoscope as never said anything about pregnancy before. :P But I definitely think it is possible to have a sense for these things. I had a chemical last month but my cycle stayed normal with the exception of a heavier and longer flow last month. I jokingly asked my niece " are you mad at me because i have a baby in my tummy" and she rolled her eyes at me and said "yes" lol me and my sister thought it was so hilarious. Headaches got worse during day 14 post-ovulation. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. I was just helping my 5yo DD in the toilet, and the smell of her poo, nearly made me vomit - normally something like this wouldn't bother me in the slightest! Nausea/vomiting 7. Had the weirdest and craziest very vivid dreams! She looked at me, looked at my belly and then back at me and asked.. "Do you have a baby in your tummy?" Apparently dogs can get to be protective with a baby. I don't know if it's coincidence or if theres something . I had no clue I was pregnant at the time and found out about twoweeks later. I'm hoping that changes soon. This happened with a previous pregnancy and thats when I really had a hunch. *4dpo spot on face (I never get them), emotional, fatigue, irritable, feel like I'm getting flu. Wishful thinking? Prices will be updated to reflect your region choice. As it turns out, the pregnancy predictions of kids do come true. Doctor wouldn't do pregnancy test. the most helpful and trustworthy pregnancy and parenting information. Help ..Lost the instructions for tesco own make pregnancy test!!! What is going through your mind? From infancy, our children can detect secondhand stress . Sometimes the outcome is no what we wished for but I hope we all got our bfp soon! I am 8 days past a positive opk so every morning I am hoping it comes lol. There actually have been studies that have been done that show that they can detect the pheromones that your body gives off during pregnancy. Here is my story: I had a couple of "lightbulb" moments before I got my BFP.. the first one was when I fell asleep in the middle of a movie at the movie theater haha and the second one was when I randomly got this disgusting metal taste in my mouth, like I was making out with someone who was wearing braces haha. I think they know! URMySunshine77 member. My cat and dog both acted very weird even before I tested. If you are worried about your pregnancy in any way, how your toddler will cope with the news, or even how you will cope with dual care, your toddler will be able to pick up on that. Before I found out this time, the moment I opened the front door I was smelling things like cinnamon from muffins I'd baked days ago that were sitting in the fridge in the kitchen at the back of the house. Therefore, it might be best to start telling your toddler as soon as it is practical for you. It is really bizarre but I believe she knows what is going on. I would have thought IF I am pregnant and the HCG levels were enough to cause these symptoms, surely it would have come up as a BFP on the HPT this morning?? Add message. Sainsbury's Pregnancy tests.. ..how reliable??? Xxx, My cm seems to have a weird pattern so I'm not sure Hun, Thanks, lotion cm means not fertile? I could smell my bosss wifes perfume a mile away with baby #2 and still got a negative test until one week past AF due date! He even sleeps outside the bathroom door while I'm in the shower. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. For instance, you might be moving some of the furniture, like a cot and rocking chair from your toddlers room, into the new nursery. Let me start by saying I know how crazy this sounds. Seriously though, I have noticed that she is being more defiant and pushing the bounderies more lately. My friend (now 24 weeks pregnant with #2) didn't have a positive pregnancy test until she was 6 weeks pregnant. i do the night feeds, i feed her during the day, i change every diaper, i take care of her after he gets off work, all the time, shes a very long vent about Blippi..I mean my MIL. Share the highs and lows of this time, and meet other women going through the same as you. My son who is almost 7 started talking last week about the nickname for the bang and how he'll help. Here are our three favorite stories from the internet where moms were convinced their toddlers magically sensed their pregnancy! Jusy wondered if anyone else had this and gone on to a bfp!!! During early pregnancy, your hormones go wild. I thought maybe thread about people who knew 100% that they were pregnant before their BFP might help others who think they are "crazy",lol. Or have your dogs been acting strange? kids are psychic now lol, 2 weeks ago our three-year-old came to my husband and I and completely out of the blue said "I've been talking with God, and he promised we could have a new baby right now, in your tummy!" Learn more about, What It's Like to Find Out You're Pregnant Through IVF. Woke up having to really prove to myself it was only a dream a couple times ! My at the time 3 yr old told my hole family i was pregnant, i brushed it off (knowimg i was secretly trying but didnt think i was actually pregnant ) three weeks later my hubby said i think u should test and yep i was pregnant so of course my family thought id lied to them. 1997-2023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. You're pregnant!!!" She never even knew I was pregnant, or that we had lost the baby. I was thinking that also. Although research hasn't confirmed a heightened sense of smell during pregnancy, about two-thirds of pregnant women say they are more sensitive to scents, a condition called hyperosmia. Save. My stomach was also warm to the touch. The internet is filled with incredible stories like this one. I just knew! When someone comes near me, he actually steps right in front of me. my dog is always like that- follows me to each and every room and under my feet! If a friend leans over too fast to give me a hug, he's instantly between me and them. All orders in this region have free shipping! Maybe that was why. Two days later I got my BFP. I think animals can. As it turns out, the pregnancy predictions of kids do come true. . She kept lifting the bottom of my shirt and saying Baby? Thought there might be some stories on this. lol my sister swears thats why my niece is so mean to me now because its probably going be a girl. '' I was pregnant like your little pooch may be very intuitive, yes, *! 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